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Software Process and Measurement Cast

The Software Process and Measurement Cast provides a forum to explore the varied world of software process improvement and measurement.  The SPaMCast covers topics that deal the challenges how work is done in information technology organizations as they grow and evolve.  The show combines commentaries, interviews and your feedback to serve up ideas, options, opinions, advice and even occasionally facts. 


Oct 22, 2023

The Software Process and Measurement Cast 778 marks our return from Iceland.  WICKED trip, great country, great people!  We return with our interview with Bill Fox. Bill and I discussed his new book, Charting A New Odyssey, transformation, dialog, listening, and leadership. The many conversations Bill and I have had over the years leave me in a better place.


Bill states, “I believe that the great leaders and companies in the 21st century will go on a Forward Thinking journey and be built from the inside out.’

The world has shifted, and new rules apply. It used to be that you would win by managing change, following best practices, working harder, or even smarter. It was the age of Industrial Thinking and people as profit-producing units.

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Re-Read Saturday News

This week in our re-read of L. David Marquet’s, Leadership is Language: The Hidden Power of What You Say – and What You Don’t, Leaving Bluework Behind: Commit. Whether you classify thinking as System Two thinking or bluework, at some point you have to cross the barrier from contemplation to doing. Chapter Five focuses on reducing the barrier between thinking and action.  The process that bridges that barrier is commitment. The author begins the chapter by making the distinction between commitment and coercion. 

Previous installments of our re-read of Leadership is Language: The Hidden Power of What You Say – and What You Don’t (buy a copy)!

Week 1: Logistics, Introduction, Foreword 

Week 2: El Faro 

Week 3: The New Playbook 

Week 4: Control the Clock

Week 5: Collaborate  

Week 6: Commit - 


The Software Process and Measurement Cast 779 will wrestle with the question, when is prioritization micro-management? The answer is not straightforward but often can be yes.

We will also have a visit from Susan Parente and her Not A Scrumdamentalist column.